Tuesday, March 16th, 2010

Non Slimming Fashion - Bold But Not So Beautiful - Revised


148 Responses to “Non Slimming Fashion - Bold But Not So Beautiful - Revised”

Amanada Says:

Being a plus size woman I know what you are talking about.Great article.Keep up the good work.

Rachel Says:

this article is absolutely disgusting.

Natalie Says:

You’re doing it wrong on so many levels. Did you even bother asking the authors of these photos for permission to use them on this horrid piece of fatphobia?

Perhaps you didn’t stop to think that many of the fat people pictured care naught for such terribly patronising advice.

Lillian Says:

I’m positively speechless. Size positive fashion is about embracing who you are and what you’ve got. ALL of what you’ve got. I will squeeze my round, ample ass into a pair of tight silver lame leggings, and I will look hot. I’m 20 years old and I refuse to be ashamed of my body. I refuse to put clothes into the categories of safe and fat. I will have fun. And how dare you suggest otherwise.

Your inclusion of people’s personal photographs in this blog post is disgusting and probably illegal. I think those women look awesome.

Linda Says:

this is ABSOLUTELY ridiculous. wow. just because we’re fat doesn’t mean we should hide our bodies in baggy dark clothing — we can be fat as well as fabulous. the pictures of the girls you posted look SO much better than the catalog models. go away

Lillian Says:

oh yeah, and just in case you didn’t get it.

FUCK. YOU.

Carrie S. Says:

I recognize many of the women that you’ve featured above as examples of “Not So Beautiful,” or “Ugly Clothing Choices” from the Fatshionista online community. I don’t think any of these gorgeous women would appreciate their images being used in this fashion. Though it’s not illegal for you to do so, it is in quite poor taste.

And for the record: as a fat woman, I find that the more I’ve grown to accept my own beauty, the more I’ve realized I’d rather my fashion reflects my personality instead of relegating myself to dark colored outfits that attempt to make me look slimmer. Slimmer is not more beautiful; being more ME is more beautiful.

Linda Says:

PS - why can’t you embrace the fat? your whole article is focused on wearing slimming clothes. not everyone hates being fat you know.

Laura Says:

This is the worst article about plus size fashion I’ve ever read. How much body shaming can you cram into one piece? Also, all the clothes you’ve chosen as “slimming” are horrifically ugly whilst the pictures you’ve STOLEN from various internet sources show women who look confident, happy and stylish.

Erin Says:

This article is so ignorant and completely misses the entire point of fatshion. Clothing can’t make you look fat. FAT makes you look fat. I’m going to look fat no matter what I wear, because I’m FAT. Why would I make all of my fashion decisions based on looking slim? I’m NOT. I would way prefer to own & love my body and wear cute, colorful, stylish and original clothing than get dressed every day trying to be something I’m not.

P.S. All the clothing you suggested is hideous.

MitzyG Says:

This is rude (did you get permission to use those pictures) patronizing, sexist, fattest and just wrong.
I am not here to decorate your world, and looking “thin” is not the be-all and end-all of my life. Also, I am not a “girl” just because I am fat. I am a woman who does not need your outdated, outmoded “advice”!

Also, you said effect but you should have said AFFECT. Way to write!

Kate Says:

Seriously, who writes this crap?

Sonia Says:

Did you get permission to use those copyrighted images from the City Chic catalogue for this sad little piece of fatphobic nonsense?

Heather Says:

Way to post an article showing you have absolutely no idea what fat acceptance is about. If you’re going to try and make fun of someone because they’re unashamed of their body, post someone who actually looks horrible. Posting pictures of Beth Ditto proves nothing except this L. Rigdon person probably dresses in drab colors and has horrible fashion sense. I’m sorry you feel fat girls need to try and blend into the background, Rigdon, but some of us KNOW we’re beautiful and see no reason to try and hide. You go right ahead and be invisible, I’m going to continue to love fat people who don’t take advice from people like you.

Meaghan Says:

This article a disgrace. How dare you attempt to tell any woman who is a part of the plus size fashion industry what they can and cannot wear. While you may not agree with the choices these beautiful women made, you are not in the position to comment about them publicly in this manner. Fashion is about self-expression; additionally plus size fashion & body awareness is about embracing who you are, what you were blessed with and the pride you have for both. Not only is this article completely inappropriate, the author of this article is obviously not in the position to be offering any type of styling advice- whatsoever.

I am truly disappointed in this article & wish you the best, as you clearly do not have the confidence the rest of us do.

On a professional note- you should consider getting permission and/or citing your photo credits.

Good Luck to you.

Kelly Says:

This article is disgusting.

You wrote it based on the assumption that fat women are dressing for anyone else but themselves and you negate that fashion has any sort of self-expressive value. Your use of real-women’s blog photos to “prove your point” is tasteless and rude. You obviously don’t have any sense of what fashion is because the clothing you suggested looks like its the size and shape of sails on a war galleon. Fashion isn’t about following the rules, its about breaking them, and your poor advice is no where near progressive and is indeed fat-phobic. I just feel sorry that you feel so ashamed of your body that you feel you need to wear a printed bedsheet to look slim. By the way, i’m really proud of the other comments on here.

Natalie Says:

A bunch of us are tweeting and blogging about this and I just hope you’re not rubbing your hands together in glee and giggling about your page views. This is *bad* press.

Catherine Says:

Fashion is fun, it’s expression! It is not about hiding your body from the world, hoping no one will guess that GASP, you are plus sized. My whole goal is to celebrate a woman’s body!! Yes, sometimes I make recommendations about what will look best on any particular body but that is to EMPHASIZE what you have - hot big boobs, curvy hips, etc, not hide your whole body and hope no one notices you. My pet peeve is recommending plus sized women just wear one dark color head to toe. BORING.

Jennifer Says:

Whatever it is you’re trying to do here, you’re doing it wrong.

Nanette Says:

I’m sick and tired of hearing, “Oh, you should only wear black because it’s slimming.” I’m a grown Fat woman and if I want to wear colors, I will. No one should be made to feel that they can’t wear certain trends or colors. And the sad thing is that many women will still follow these dumb rules instead of just deciding what makes them feel comfortable.

Deb Says:

Did you get permission from the copyrighted Size Queen Clothing website to use their pictures for this pathetic and offensive excuse for an article?

Also it’s obnoxious to remove photos from their original context and post them for your blog.

And lastly, all your “do” advice pictures are BORING AND UGLY and I would rather someone shoot me and let me die in pool of my own blood as the last thing I wear before wearing an oversized and shapeless tunic in a floral print.

mary Says:

“most people will only remember you as the fat chick in the weird clothes”

GOOD. i’d rather be the fat chick in the weird clothes than the STILL FAT chick in boring, oversized, matronly clothes

i hope one of the people in the photos slams you with a DMCA complaint. not only are you wrong, but you’re incredibly rude

lisette Says:

Shamefully woman-hating. Save your harsh critiques for corporations making money off of selling us sub-par sh*t for double the price just because we’re plus size, NOT for the unique and creative women who are dressing in what they feel truly good in!! The goal of every plus woman is not to disguise her body or pull magic tricks on the eye so that we fade away into one big fat background. When the entire fashion industry is already telling plus women they’re ugly, you are too. You’ve successfully alienated most of the plus-fashion readership on the web, and that just won’t be easily forgiven. I happily endorse all the women you’ve singled out as BAD & will lovingly continue to follow their blogs. Not yours.

Biggurlfashion Says:

Let’s break down your article.

“no matter how many bold layers of gorgeous fabric, dainty ruffles, or striking colors you pile on, it’s just going to make you look fatter.”

Have you looked at different sizes of plu size females. Piling on clothes do not make everyone look fatter and even if it did, should we be ashamed? Hell no!

“we don’t always make the best fashion choices. We accentuate what we shouldn’t, and we hide our best features.”

And to what standards do you say that we accentuate what we shouldn’t. Is there a bible that we do not know about that we accentuate our flaws. If there is let me know. Our best feature is our whole self and we should never hid ourselves no matter what people like you or what the retailers say.

Tip #1 — Wearing darker colored clothing helps create a slimmer appearance.
Tip #2 — Choose clothing styles that take the focus away from your problem areas.
Tip #3 — Only wear clothing that makes you feel comfortable.

Your tips are crap, clothing that makes a person comfortable may be darker clothing but for some bright colors make us feel comfortable. So every piece of clothing that I wear should be dark and slimming. Sorry won’t do it for sweetie.

I think a lot of females don’t care if they are called the fat chick who is weird. At least they love themselves and wear fashion that they see fit.

“Using the above tips should help you start creating a bold and truly beautiful wardrobe that’ll make you look slimmer and feel more positive about your image.”

Who does clothing have to make me look slimmer and feel positive about my image. It’s people like you that think all females want to be slimmer and that’s what is going to bring happiness. I really think you need to take these pics down and speak to the females first and I bet you would have a better understanding on what everyone precieves as fashion.

Kelly Says:

btw, i nknow this is way more uncouth than my last comment, but AT LEAST I’M GETTING LAID!

polianarchy Says:

Wow. I know the 80s are in style, but we don’t have to think retro, too. I remember reading this type of hate-filled, shameful article back then; thank goodness fat acceptance has come a long way since. Your demeaning language and flagrant disrespect for these women is disgusting, and your stealing the photographs in order to write yet another fatphobic blog post is despicable. I’m not surprised at this post. It’s the same old shit that’s been written so many times in the past I could write one like it myself. I’m only diappointed that your stupid little corner of the internet is getting so much hostile reaction, it will no doubt get more attention than it deserves.

annie g Says:

laura and natalie you took the words right out of my mouth. i couldn’t even handle reading this whole nightmare of an article. this article isn’t about fat and body acceptance, it’s about how you can blend in, not be noticed, and appear slimmer, because obviously that’s the epitome of beauty.

i can’t actually speak for the fat community, because i’m a size 6-8 and apparently this makes me “slim enough to wear ugly clothing”, but i still back these ladies (and dudes) 150%. just for the record, skinny people can look pretty horrendous in their clothing choices too, if they can’t rock it. rocking and owning a look has nothing to do with weight, but with confidence. but why would you want to embrace your body and love the cards you’ve been dealt? no. just put on that flat, shapeless, black (cuz black is slimming, you know) bag and fade into the background.

you. are. ridiculous.

Tiffany Says:

You don’t get it, do you? Hiding yourself is not loving yourself. Sure, I love a black dress every now and again, but shrinking away (ha) and hiding behind dark clothes is never fun.

It’s people like you that start self-esteem problems that last for a lifetime. Enjoy your guilt.

Cid Says:

I had never heard of your site till now. No wonder you have awful articles, if you are taking the perez hilton approach of causing drama & talking trash to get more hits or people to visit your website it not gonna work. Seriously this is the 1st & last time I will every visit this site and I will let every one know not to ever come here either…..FAIL FAIL FAIL!
Thank goodness us ugly dressing fat woman don’t give a crap about what you think or say about how we dress!

uberVU - social comments Says:

Social comments and analytics for this post…

This post was mentioned on Twitter by gabifresh: what the actual fuck at this article! and they EMAILED it to me as if i would LIKE it? those are my friends?!? http://tinyurl.com/ykmhuyq...

kiki Says:

THAT IS POSSIBLY THE WORST ADVICE I HAVE EVER HEARD. AND THE WORST PIECE OF SHIT WRITING I HAVE SEEN ON THE INTERNETS IN A WHILE.

Liz Says:

While you may choose to post articles on what u consider appropriate plus size fashion, it is wrong to use these ladies’ personal pictures in such a negative way. While u may not agree with their fashion choices, I’m sure they would not agree with yours either. I think you owe the ladies an apology and u should remove their pics ex post haste. I hope u aren’t getting any revenue from this blog because u may find yourself the defendant in an invasion of privacy law suit. Anyways, u and everyone else may have your own opinions about fashion and by all means blog about it. I don’t care about what u say about fatshion, u are entitled to your own opinion; however it is wrong and distasteful to call out people and use their pics in such a negative way. I sincerely hope that aftee reading these comments u will delete the post, apologize, and not make the same mistake again.

BITCHPLZ Says:

A shit post on a shit blog.

Liz Says:

**after**

aida yu Says:

DIE IN A FIRE. And WHO THE FUCK WAS THAT FIRST COMMENT?? Jesus.

freeyourheart Says:

i think you’re missing something:
it’s fashion.
fashion is subjective.
i may think the matronly look is out for someone under 60,
but that may be your everyday look.
either way,
do you.

i won’t bash you,
comment on the many flaws to your argument.
but i will recommend uplifting the community you inadvertently bashed.

calling names won’t help.
rude opinions won’t either.

and be real:
should a woman,
regardless of size,
be restricted in her style?
it’s hard enough being a curvy chick,
without be reduced to mumus & wide leg pants.

::kanye shrug::

ainge Says:

a lot of the women in those “bad” fashion photos look great.

re: dark clothing - for every person who can really rock black/navy and other dark colours, there are people who look entirely unremarkable in them. wearing black does not make anyone look thinner. fit helps more than colour in this regard.

re: problem areas - the bodycon look is everywhere right now. even curvier thin women, like nelly furtado at the olympic opening ceremonies are embracing this look. people should focus less on masking the problem area and more on enhancing or drawing attention to their assets. focussing on problem areas would have every fat woman in a black sack… oh wait - you seem to be into that!

as for tip 3, i’m a young fat woman and i do not feel comfortable in frumpy crap, so i’m gonna continue experimenting with colour and fun silhouettes like the women you posted as examples of fashion failure. hiding my body doesn’t make it any smaller.

Catherinepleasecatherine Says:

Really?! Fat girls shouldn’t wear bold colors and prints?!
Really we should hide our own style and ditch it for frumpy clothes that hides our shape and make us look like unoriginal potato sack?! Really?! And Really, using girls that are known bloggers and more over popular for being stylish and themselves and judging them gratiously. Really?!

Seriously, that is a the crappiest piece of merde I’ve ever read. It is judgemental, prejudicious and a step back to where we were less than 5-10 years ago…

Jessica Says:

Pure fashion for plus size women?? PFFT! This article feeds readers the idea that we should be shamed into black muumuus. Your horrendous journalism mixed with stealing pictures of beautiful women to market them as poorly dressed is laughable and disgusting all at the same time…bravo

Sara Says:

As so many people have said but really can’t be said enough - FAIL

You’ve stolen photos without permission, you’re equating slim with beautiful, and you’re advocating for soulless, bland and boring clothing choices in an attempt to push fat people to the back of the crowd.

NO. NO. and did I mention NO!

This article, and the rest of your fatphobic drivel, needs to step off.

vomiting Says:

Beth Ditto as a what not to wear example? Fuck that. If someone is going to remember you as being the ‘fat girl in the weird clothes’ for dressing as you like then let them. People like that aren’t the types you want in your life anyway. Nobody should buy into dressing down just so as to look closer to the norm.
Why don’t we also encourage lesbians to dress a little more conservative - you know, women back in skirts and not flattering pants that accentuate the gay?

This article is awfully patronising. You aren’t a happy person, are you?

Leigh Says:

Most of my friends agree that I am among the best dressed and most stylish of all of them. I am constantly being asked to style my friends for events and my girlfriends covet my meticulously crafted wardrobe. I am in a sorority of beautiful girls, and I am very popular. I am also a size 18, and I follow NONE of your rules. I am fat, and I am fucking fabulous.

viva_hater Says:

Bless your heart.

vomiting Says:

Also, I would like to second what annie g had to say a few comments above. Being thin, or looking thin, shouldn’t be some ultimate goal. ‘If I hide my fat I’ll look pretty!’ NO. Bright colours don’t necessarily suit thin people better, which you’re pretty much implying, wtf.

I am a very petite women and I’ve been told I shouldn’t wear a lot of what I want; I have no hips whatsoever and a small chest. But who fucking cares? I dress like an eccentric bag lady some days and I’m awesome.

Drew Says:

So to look sexy, women have to try to make themselves look skinny?

Fucking stupid article. I’m glad my fiancee doesn’t take your fashion advice.

And Beth Ditto is way sexy. So…

mary Says:

“btw, i nknow this is way more uncouth than my last comment, but AT LEAST I’M GETTING LAID!”

oh good katie yeah feminism and body acceptance is about your self-worth according to *other people*

:/

mary Says:

and by “katie” i mean “kelly”

but point still stands, in an argument about how we are supposed to define our own standards of beauty away from society’s, saying “somebody fucks me” devalues it substantially

Reduced To Buying Men's Clothes Says:

I buy guy’s pants because, guess what? MEN DO NOT HAVE STRETCH, SLIMMING, OR OTHER ANNOYANCES forced on them by their pants manufacturers.

I don’t WANT slimming pants, I don’t want “tummy reducing” jeans, I DO NOT WANT anything except a pair of damn pants. I don’t want spray-on-look stretch jeans, I don’t want bootcut, flare, curvy, whatthehellever jeans. I JUST WANT A PAIR OF GOD-FORSAKEN STRAIGHT-LEG JEANS.

I cannot buy a pair of NEW women’s jeans, in my size (the not-so-unusual 20), that meets the criteria of straight-leg, non-stretch, five-pocket style. I cannot buy a pair of those pants because FASHION “DESIGNERS” AND THEIR ENABLERS do not believe that I want those pants.

Fashion “designers” and their enablers do not believe that I want or DESERVE stylish, comfortable clothes. The author of this article obviously believes the same, because it’s all about the hiding and the camouflaging and the please-don’t-give-me-nice-things.

And yeah, I am angry. I’m an angry, chubby person who WANTS and DESERVES the same consideration as any other human being on the planet, thanks.

(For the record, I found my pants. Lee straight-leg men’s jeans, which as far as I can tell, are now no longer manufactured. FML.)

Kelly Says:

mary- didn’t mean to offend, i was just making an obviously ill-placed and apparently ill recieved joke. that certainly was not the point of what i was trying to say, just was said in anger at the idea that the writer wrote her artcle based off the notion that we must be dress to look slim so others will value us more.

and i don’t put my value on how other people perceive me, but i’m def not the weird fat girl that dresses over the top. i’m a sucessfully sexual human being that is well received by others, despite the fact that society tells me from the left and from the right (like this article) that i should blend in. i think you read WAY into that statement, but as i said, sorry if it came off the wrong way.

Emily Says:

this is so absolutely degrading, not only to fat bodies, but to ALL women. having one’s own sense of fashion and tastes and opinions, especially when it comes to bodies that have historically been considered unworthy of fashion, is a really empowerng thing–this article only reinforces all the old, oppresive rules.

Fatadeluc Says:

Sorry, those fashion rules and tips exist purely to make fatties feel bad. Sure, depending on circumstances, I may happen to dress that way some if the time (dark pants, colourful top) but who are you to tell me I can ‘t also waer my silver pants with my snakeskin jacket? And I love the individual style of the people you used as “don’t” examples. Please do me a favour and stop dictating what we can and cannot wear. In as much as there is no one style for slim people, there is no one style for fat people.

Kiki Says:

I am the owner of one of the photos up there the red polka dot one, and I have not recieved any correspondence in regards for asking permission for the use of image. if you do not remove my image immediately I will take further action in order to ensure it’s removal.

mary Says:

@kelly

“but i’m def not the weird fat girl that dresses over the top. i’m a sucessfully sexual human being that is well received by others, despite the fact that society tells me from the left and from the right (like this article) that i should blend in.”

this tells me you still don’t get it

Tiffany Says:

One other thing I don’t get — how are so many other things on this blog semi-current when this singular post pretty much condemns all of current popular fashion on fatties? I don’t understand at all.

Kelly Says:

Mary- i don’t appreciate your patronizing me like i don’t understand the issue. obviously for you this issue is entirely internal, but i have zero shame in saying that i don’t feel like any less of a feminist by allowing others to see me as sexy and above that, to feel good it. and, i’ve already apologized to you for offending you so gravely, so lets just drop it. simple difference of opinion over an aspect of the movement. i think its pointless to assimilate everyone in th movement to one collective thought, we just really just be combining efforts to fight ignorance as displayed in this article.

Kate Says:

Wow girls! Way to make your point…have a ridiculous and petty fight on someone else’s site and distract attention from the good arguments everyone else is making.

Annie Says:

I’m not even fat and I think you are an ignorant douchebag for writing this article.

P.s. WTF is this outfit? http://www.bbsize.com/images/article/image066.jpg WTF?!?!!!!

Samantha Says:

@mary

“oh good katie yeah feminism and body acceptance is about your self-worth according to *other people*”

so the opinion of others, in terms of self-acceptance, has no value? i think there’s a difference between behaving in a way that conforms to others’ expectations and simply (and happily) accepting and valuing their opinions after the fact.

“in an argument about how we are supposed to define our own standards of beauty away from society’s, saying “somebody fucks me” devalues it substantially”

again, who are you to diminish someone’s reaction to another person’s positive opinion? defining our own standards of beauty is not devalued by acknowledging that other people find us attractive. you sound as if you’re assuming she’s purposefully acting in a way to EARN these opinions. you don’t know that. like i said, there’s a huge difference between conforming to warrant approval and just being comfortable that other people find us attractive for reasons of our own design and preference.

H. Powers Says:

I never gave permission for you to use my image. Remove my pictures immediately. Second row on the right, and first picture under “be a beautiful girl and avoid ugly…” Cease and desist immediately.

I don’t find intellectual property theft funny. But do you know what I do find amusing? When people make fools of themselves by taking things out of context. Those photos you stole? They were part of an essay about a particular company that cuts clothing poorly. They were visual aids meant to demonstrate the poorly-cut clothing. The entire point of that essay was to warn people not to buy them because they were ill-fitting.

Regardless, the idea that anyone “can’t” or “shouldn’t” wear things that make them feel confident is without merit. Especially when it comes to a group of people with societal stigmas and prejudices around them.

And, may I say, using dull outfits that are devoid of personal style doesn’t actually illustrate how to dress “correctly.”

A classless essay you’ve written, full of typos, devoid of style. Take my photos down immediately.

H Says:

The girls in the “non-slimming” pictures exude confidence, personality, and style.
The girls in the “flattering” pictures looks like they don’t know how to wear fitted clothes; some of those outfits are actually tent-like. Boring, generic, tents.

What would I rather look like?

Kate Says:

Apparently wearing something that resembles a pleather beanbag cover is the way to go ladies:

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs516.snc3/27089_713459254835_6412574_40987601_5548947_n.jpg

vomiting Says:

Kate! That beanbag cover is black and therefore a wise choice.

Remember: choose black. Choose a black beanbag cover over any NON-SLIMMING clothing.

Val - Blog to be Alive Says:

Shame on you for asking us plus-size bloggers to share this article on our blogs! This article is absolute rubbish.

cutselvage Says:

I have not received any requests or correspondence regarding the use of my image (first picture in the second row under the heading “Be a Beautiful Girl and Avoid Ugly Clothing Choices”). I hereby request you IMMEDIATELY remove my image as described.

Also, your article is a pile of drivel.

Miss Fierce and VERY BOTHERED Says:

i’m kind of wondering if the bloggers at bbsize are even fat women…or fat people…that would explain a lot.

also, anyone who speaks ill of beth ditto is NOT a friend of mine. she’s one of the only fat women accepted in the fashion mainstream, so STOP HATING.

Melissa Says:

It’s bad enough that we have to hear ignorance from the OMG OBESITY EPIDEMIC brigade, but to hear this sort of self-hating, fatphobic nonsense on an alleged fat-positive blog is not only unacceptable, it’s disgusting. I cannot believe that any reasonably intelligent person could have gone through the entire process of writing this and assembling stolen photos without one even once thinking, you know, this is shaming and hateful and maybe not in the spirit of helping fat women accept and love themselves.

Seriously, if you have no more awareness of your poor writing and subject choices than this… just do yourself and the community a favour and try a different hobby. This is not the niche for you. Perhaps you would better suit a job at a fat farm, yelling at fatties to quit being so damned fat.

Morrigoon Says:

Are you for real?
(quote)
* Tip #1 — Wearing darker colored clothing helps create a slimmer appearance.
* Tip #2 — Choose clothing styles that take the focus away from your problem areas.
* Tip #3 — Only wear clothing that makes you feel comfortable.

(/quote)

These tips work great for women in the “normal” range (that is, below the “average” American size of 14) who are paranoid about every 5 lbs they gain, but they are less applicable to those of us in the upper range. Please see your own advice about thinking that the same fashion (tips) will work on all sizes.

At 230 lbs and a size 20, nothing - and I mean NOTHING - is going to fool the world into mistaking me for a skinny person. BUT wearing drab, drapey, tentlike clothes and super wide-leg pants CAN fool the world into thinking I’m heavier than I am, more boring than I am, and less stylish than I could be.

Here are my tips:

Tip #1: Wearing wide-leg pants with a billowy top will make people think of s’mores and hiking, and not in a good way. Balance your outfits.

If you feel like wearing a wide-leg pant, pair it with a shaped top. Doesn’t have to be stretchy/form-fitting/leotard, but even the slightest feminine curve cut into the side seams will go miles toward accentuating that yes, we larger girls do indeed have a feminine shape. For my (46-46-52) brick shape, I like the empire-waist tops that gently flare at the hips but skim the ribcage (creating a waistline look just a couple inches above my waistline, where I actually narrow).

If you want to wear a wide, billowy top, well, I don’t recommend it but perhaps there are some shapes that it works for, so if you do, pair it with a shapelier pair of pants. My personal preference is bootcuts because they have a more normal fit around the thighs and the extra fabric at the bottom is not so excessive that it causes my feet to disappear (a risk with palazzo pants), instead it creates that casual look that balances the width of my thighs.

Tip #2: Taking the focus away from your problem areas is not about distraction, it’s about making sure you let your favorite parts of your form be seen. The more you drape and cover, the more obvious it is that you’re trying to cover. FIT is critical. Don’t buy clothes that are too tight or too loose as neither do you any favors. Accept that there are many different shapes in the plus world, and if a garment doesn’t come in a suitable fit for your shape, that you should pass it by in favor of garment designed better for your shape. Shopping retailers like igigi.com who will tell you whether an item is recommended for different shapes is helpful.

Tip #3: While hidden elastic can be a godsend, obvious elastic waists are a cop-out by retailers. They do it because it’s easier than cutting proper fits for different shapes. You’ll usually find them in the same parts of stores as hideous floral drapey tent tops. Heed that warning for what it is. Yes, it’s harder to find clothes that are a good fit, but it’s worth the effort. A bad fit or no fit will make you look worse.

Tip #4: Trying to hide your fat just makes you look like a fat girl who is ashamed of herself. Don’t listen to these people telling you to pretend to be skinny. You HAVE a feminine shape. Find your favorite narrow point, whether it’s at your waist, your hips, just under the bust, or anywhere in between, and wear clothes that accentuate it. For me, this is at the bottom of my ribcage, lower than the highest empire waists, but above the “natural” waist. I tend toward garments that have a slightly raised waistline because that allows me to get the best fit for that shape (eg: comes in at my favorite narrow area). I avoid those garments, however, that have center gathers. While designed to theoretically conceal my central “problem area”, instead they poof out over it, making my problem area an even bigger problem, especially in profile. “Hiding” in the traditional sense doesn’t work. If there’s an area that makes you uncomfortable, seek a garment that just skims it (close, but not too close)

Tip #5: Dark colors may be slimming, but they’re still dark. For many women, this can wash us out, rob us of our femininity, and tone down our beautiful looks. Stop hiding. It’s no fun and we’re not fooling anyone anyway. Bright, bold colors that suit your complexion exude an air of confidence, which is far more attractive. Remember that you can go dark and still be colorful. If you do wear black pants, pair them with a bright top. Jewel tones are awesome for this. Seek out colors that make you happy, that you like to surround yourself with. Awesome accessories can also brighten a dull dark outfit. Hair flowers are very “in” right now, come in many bright happy colors, and also add a feminine touch to your ensemble.

Tip #6: Feminize your wardrobe wherever possible.

I’m not talking about bonnets and pioneer skirts here, just don’t forget that you’re a woman and you have a right to beautiful things. For many of us, the proportions of a masculine cut can be a better fit, but this gives us the added challenge of looking too much like men with boobs. You can counter this by balancing masculine items with feminine ones, or by adding awesome accessories. See my earlier comments about hair flowers. Flutter sleeves, lace, ruffles… even a little can take an otherwise masculine outfit from drab to fab. This is another area where bold color choice can help you. Take a standard black business suit, and instead of a white top, try lime green, pink, cobalt, red, etc. My grandmother had a saying that when you enter a room, you either dress it up, or dress it down. Make sure you are the one to dress it up.

LADIES: As a woman, you are a rare and beautiful creature, like a butterfly. Move through the world as one who knows and embraces that beauty. Beauty hidden is beauty unappreciated. Dress the curves you have as if you cherish each and every one of them, and you will feel and look better.

*****

Oh, and to the author: it was really crappy of you to steal photos and post them without permission. The fact that one of the most stylish people I know is in your “don’t” photos robs you of any credibility you might have had with me if I didn’t already recognize your advice as generic and irrelevant.

C Says:

This is the dumbest thing I have ever read. All I’m getting is “If you’re fat, you should either lose weight or wear this dark colored muumuu!” Riiiiight.

Kiki Says:

now there’s a bunch of other places for us to pass on our valued feedback to the author of this article so we she can attempt to explain blatant theft of our images for her own material gain.

According to her website http://www.lrigdon.com/
“At present, L. Rigdon would prefer all correspondence to go through e-mail.
For questions or comments not related to projects or linking up, please direct your e-mails to: questionsforL@LRIGDON.com

there is also her blog http://eccentriceclectic.wordpress.com/

and simple google yields plenty o results

Christina Says:

This is just stupid. Like, even forgetting the horribly insensitive and patronizing nature of the entire write up. Stupid.

You can’t compare real girls in real clothes to plus size models in ugly, matronly, catalog tents. Models photographed in a professional capacity. Of course the plus size models look slimmer, it’s because they’re plus size MODELS. 10 feet tall, with a true size range of 8-14.

And slimmer doesn’t mean more beautiful. Even if it does, black parachute pants and an oversize forest green tunic aren’t going to make you look slimmer. I get more unsolicited “you’ve lost weight!” comments when I wear something form fitting. This is because of proportion, which swaddling yourself in drapery is never going to accomplish.

Beauty is subjective, but certain objectives do need to be recognized in the realm of fashion. This article fails at those objectives, because it willfully misunderstands the importance of proportion and color.

Lyn Says:

I’m a bigger lady who loves - LOVES - bold reds and yellows. I now see that this is wrong as bright colours draw the eyes, and someone might notice I’m not a size 4. Oh, the horror.

Tomorrow I shall go out and buy 100 black sacks. I shall cut a hole for my head and hope - nay, pray, no one spots that my size is 22. With luck I will only be able to go out at night - to further decrease the impact of my poor fashion choices.

Tongue out of cheek, what kind of bullshit is this? Don’t large ladies cop enough crap without a site that is supposedly out here to help being patronising and offensive? How DARE you pull images of women who are happy and confident in themselves and their clothes and explain why it’s not okay to be happy about it?

An apology needs to be issued, and it needs to be issued in the space this pile of crap is currently in. It needs to say “To all the women we stole pictures of to rips to bits like noxious cowards, we are very sorry”

Seriously, how dare you. If you wanted to write guidelines, fine, but the way you’ve done it is patronising, offensive and disgusting.

To ALL the ladies featured here - you look wonderful. Long may you reign.

Meerkat Says:

So fat women are beautiful so long as they wear clothes that make them look like some other type of woman? Duly noted!

Phatty girl Says:

The big girl community has officially disowned you!!!!!

Katy Says:

What I really hate about this (besides everything already mentioned) is that it might actually put some people off posting their pics to sites like Fatshionista in case they get used for some fat-shaming. I really hope not. This was just a nasty thing to do, and I hope NOBODY buys your clothes or clicks on your ads!

HellfireLover Says:

Fuck you very much, BBsize. You absolutely suck at fashion. FYI, the advice about horizontal stripes is not only the same old tired, clichéd, trotted-out-every-fuckin’-time advice you can get in any (yawn) off the shelf fashion magazine, it’s also entirely wrong. Horizontal stripes are slimming, it’s called the Helmholtz illusion, look it up, you bunch of dolts.

Besides, you don’t seem to get this whole fashion thing! Look at the boring, anodyne catalogue pics you posted (stole) as your ‘good’ examples. Now look at Beth Ditto. She’s fuckin’ fierce, she shouldn’t hide her body away in dark colours and muumuus. None of the girls whose pictures YOU STOLE should. They’re all goddamn awesome, and they’re totally rocking the styles they love.

Worst. Plus-Size. Fashion. Blog. EVER.

cynth Says:

Complete and utter FAIL!

Mark Says:

Let me first state that anyone who knows me know I love the beautiful fat chicks. When I say fat chick, it’s a compliment. :-D My wife is a gorgeous and super sexy 5′4″ size 22. When we first met, her wardrobe was basically khaki pants and baggy shirts. Now she dresses in a way that shows confidence AND accentuates her positives. I don’t think practical fashion tips should be dismissed as bigoted.

Take me for example. My whole family has dark circles under their eyes. The women wear makeup to cover theirs. I discovered that eyeglasses distract from mine. So I wear glasses rather than contacts. I have shortish legs so I tend to tuck my shirts rather than let them hang out. I think it’s really all about balance. My teeth are less than perfectly white, so I avoid white shirts. Just trying to put my best foot forward.

Anyhow, I know I’m gonna get flamed so I will just say I love the large ladies. I love bellies in tight shirts and muffin tops over low rise jeans. Embrace your curves ladies. Please show them off. But try not to look like you dressed with your eyes closed. Some clothing combination would not look good on ANYONE.

Real Women Have Curves and Real Men Love Them :-D
Mark

Chloe Says:

I agree, this is disgusting. No photo sources are cited, and I recognise a lot of the people being shown there.

How dare you suggest that clothing should only be used to SLIM and FLATTER a fat woman. Why can’t we draw attention to ourselves?

And using Beth Ditto as an example of how not to dress? She’s got more sense and intelligence than you have in your little finger.

Katy Says:

Mark, can I use some of your pictures from before you discovered those great fashion tips? I’m writing an article called “Short, Speccy, Yellow Teethed Men with Shadows Under Their Eyes can be Allowed Out in Public Too!”

Twistie Says:

Wow. My gob is well and truly smacked. Here I thought this was supposed to be a site about loving your bigger body, but this article is all about dressing invisibly and trying to ‘pass’ as thin. I am not thin. When I tried to dress thin, I wound up dressing invisible and miserable. You know, sort of like I did back in the day when I was trying to dress so I could pass myself off as taller than 5′2″.

Thinner is not always better. Taller is not always better. A smart fashionista knows that looking her best is a matter of choosing clothes that flatter her coloring, are as well made as she can afford, and bring out her individual personality. On me that means a lot of orange, purple, lime green, and turquoise. Why? Because those are colors that make my eyes sparkle and my skin glow. It means bold jewelry and dramatic details. Why? Because I have a bold personality. These are the things that make people see me more than my waistline.

I wear flat shoes pretty much exclusively, but most people are so busy seeing me that they don’t think about how far down they’re having to look to meet my eye. I wear bright colors and bold details, but most people are so busy seeing me that they don’t think about my measurements or my double chin. They see these things eventually, of course, and well they should. I’m not trying to be anything I’m not. The important thing is that the first thing they see is a woman with style, flair, and a personality worth getting to know.

Anyone out there wanting to be fabulous? Forget dressing to hide your ‘flaws.’ Find the colors that bring out the best in you (that’s glowy skin and sparkly eyes, not ‘maybe they won’t notice I’m fat’), find the shapes that express who you are inside, and refuse to be invisible.

Remember, you cannot show the world how beautiful you are if you’re hiding.

In conclusion, I’d like to invite the author of this annoying article to bite me.

larkin Says:

How weird this site is. It’s like you decided you wanted to insult a bunch of perfect strangers but had to pretend that you were doing something else.

My gut reaction is that this is a troll site, put up by someone who wants to create bad feeling; the fashion stuff is too trivial and stupid for it to be real, and the only energy in the site is the hateful stuff. Some kind of 4channy thing, perhaps.

The Curvy Fashionista Says:

Too annoyed by this, frustrated, and quite saddened… it is articles like these that incite plus size fashion bloggers to work harder… but this? This attempted to shoot us back like five years or so…

How dare you email this article under the guise of a fashion disasters, only to poke ridicule and frustration at the fatshionistas? If you know nothing of it- please dont speak on it…

Devon Says:

A lot of the Fats featured in this post I’m familiar with on a blogging level, several I have actually spoken to. This post is horrible - you didn’t even bother to ask permission to use their photos so you KNEW it would generate a negative response. The second photo in your bulls*** stream is actually Kiki, an amazingly beautiful girl who can pull off bold patterns with more attitude and positivity than you could ever wish for. If your writers are jealous of people who have the confidence to wear something bold, to -shall I say it- DARE to wear the same things straight sizes wear then that’s their problem. Don’t make it ours.

What above commenter Larkin said sums this up;
How weird this site is. It’s like you decided you wanted to insult a bunch of perfect strangers but had to pretend that you were doing something else.

My gut reaction is that this is a troll site, put up by someone who wants to create bad feeling; the fashion stuff is too trivial and stupid for it to be real, and the only energy in the site is the hateful stuff. Some kind of 4channy thing, perhaps.

Good job at failing to provide an informative and impartial website. You have lost many readers. I believe you underestimate just how strong the fat blogging current is.

B Says:

If I figure out who these pics belong to I WILL be notifying the people who own them. Just because a picture is online does NOT mean that the picture is open to fair use. It appears you receive ad revenue from this site so I can assure you they’ll sue, if only out of spite.

Stealing is wrong, then using stolen images to ridicule the women who have posted them? That’s beyond wrong.

indi_cognito Says:

hey, great job at lifting photographs and publishing people in an article that didn’t give their consent!

jackass

I’d rather be confident and happy with my clothing purchases than purchase what was supposedly “slimming”

Mz Liz BBWGeneration Says:

“Phatphobea” is CORRECT!
FASHION = IS the EXPRESSION of CULTURE, EXPERIENCE, FEELINGS, THOUGHTS, SOUL etc…
HOW DARE YOU state that we are too large to EXPRESS ‘OUR’ beauty?!!!
Shame on you!
I “AM” BIG, BOLD ANNNNDDDDD BEAUTIFUL! See it, feel it and HEAR IT!

*whip*
Mz Liz
BBW Generation
Size Acceptance Advocate
http://www.LyricTheMusic.com

M Says:

This article is 100% ridiculous. These rules won’t make anyone magically look this. Better to have fun and break nonsensical rules than punish yourself by restricting yourself to drab and dull

Katzen Says:

Wow. I read the negative comments before seeing the article itself (as it had been removed), but even THEY did not prepare me for your patronizing, cruel and WRONG blog post.

(For those who missed the post, google “Bold But Not So Beautiful” and click “cache.”)

I recognize many of these women from the LiveJournal Fatshionista community. They are beautiful. They have unique, confident fashion sense. They dare to stand out in the crowd rather than accept your stale advice and self-loathing “rules” for what fat people should and should not do.

These women are my peers, whom I admire for their audacity and style, and you are telling them they look bad and that they should go live in boring black bags for the rest of their lives.

F— you.

What were you thinking?

Yes, I weigh 240 and would rather be the weirdo in horizontal stripes and neon leggings than wear some bland sack of self-hatred like the outfits you suggest.

This is my first time visiting your blog. I won’t be back, as I cannot relate to or agree with a single word you say.

Katzen Says:

One final point.

All of your “good” examples appear to be from catalogs and retailers’ web sites.

I’m not seeing ANY random fat women whose pictures you stole from the internet presented as positive examples… only airbrushed, professional models.

Please do reflect on this for a bit.

Molly Says:

Please stop trying to make everyone else hate their body as much as you obviously hate yours. And stop stealing pictures.

E Says:

Fuck you, BBsize.

Kate Says:

Where is your apology BBsize?

Deb Says:

This is totally fucking disgraceful.

Jessica Says:

Dear BBsize & L. Rigdon:

This article is disgusting! Shame on you for promoting this as something that is supposed to be helpful to plus sized women. And stealing pictures of fab, stylish women and labeling them as “Ugly Styles to Avoid” or “Be a Beautiful Girl and Avoid Ugly Clothing Choices” is disgraceful! The shear nerve that you all must have is mind boggling! You are a bunch of pathetic, out dated fashion failures.

By the way, my fab fat 65 year old mother wouldn’t be caught dead in the crappy outfits you are peddling. I too wonder where the apology for this horrible article is? Hmmm?

Sincerely,
Jessica
Yet another poster who will never be back!

oH PLEASE Says:

how fucking dare you use the photos from fatshionista’s flickr pool to augment your ridiculous, pathetic article.

This is LITERALLY the worst thing I have ever seen or read on the internet.

Elle Says:

You should be ashamed of yourselves. You owe the beautiful, well-dressed ladies in your stolen photos an apology.

Louise Says:

I wait with baited breath to see the next article, coming soon. No really. It better be the biggest apology in history or your reputation as a professional writer solving problems is right down the tube.
No professional would disregard intellectual rights to photographs and use them to humiliate the unconsenting subjects.
No professional would write a blog post which was so wrong it needed to be removed to stop the shitstorm.
This leads me to conclude that your opinion is worth nothing because you didn’t do your research properly, didn’t compare like for like, and didn’t go down the normal routes any author of any kind would do to ask permission to use subject matter - I suspect because you knew that you would receive a resounding no.

I don’t care what you think of how other fat people dress. I care more that you’re touting yourself as a professional writer and giving others in the same field a bad name. I care more that someone paid you to write this utter and complete crap.

Be glad it’s not in print. You can’t delete that so easily.

jen Says:

Ha - I’ve been looking at the other articles and it’s all

No Comments - No Comments - No Comments - No Comments - 1 Comment (which turns out to be a bot) - No Comments - No Comments

Looks like your heinous fashion choices aren’t really public opinion, eh?

Haha Says:

Um, even though the author may have erred by taking photos without permission, the style tips are pretty much spot on. The fat chicks wearing patterns look tacky and the “do” models look pretty good. That said, I don’t like solid colors all the way down. In case you are wondering, I am a fat chick.

hunh? Says:

The “do” models look like shapeless sacks. They actually look HEAVIER than they are. I suppose if we all resembled large bags of horse feed those outfits would be perfectly suited to us.

But hey, to each their own. Enjoy your colorblock mumuus and palazzo pants - if you rock them out and you like them, then all the more power to you.

@ Haha Says:

Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. Good thing fashion and beauty are not measured by yours or the self-hating author of this article.

hunh? Says:

Oh, totally. You can tell every little thing about a person from one comment on a website.

hunh? Says:

And HA - nice pr0n link! ClASSy.

Chloe Says:

I don’t agree with every bit of advice in the article, such as the one about darker colors - I think brighter colors are better, but most of the people commenting here are just annoyed that their fashion sense was called upon as being bad.

It doesn’t matter whether you are fat or thin there are ways to dress that make you look better and have a sexier shape (maybe ’slimmer’ was a bad choice of words on the author’s part).

Everyone’s tastes are different and the way many of the “fat fashionista’s” have attacked this site is a bit childish. They have different opinions and so does the writer here, as do many other people.

For example, one of the people in the photos is defending themselves here:
http://community.livejournal.com/fatshionista/6004355.html

I personally think that picture was a fashion disaster, as are some (but definitely not all) of those in the comments of that article. It’s safe to say I am not alone in the conclusion and most people I’ve shown it too agree with me. All that angry attacks won’t change the fact that many people will disagree with your fashion sense.

The bad fashion examples here are what I think most people would agree with. I’m not fat or thin, but found the pics (now in Google cache) amusing, as did my girlfriends, both fat and thin.

If you want to dress in a certain way and love to do it, then just do it. But don’t expect everyone to like it or rally your friends together to attack someone who disagrees with you. Their entitled to think your fashion sense is bad just as you think yours is good.

After all your pics were posted online for the world to see, so expect the world to judge you. There’s no point living in a dreamworld that everyone will think what you wear is great, and that nobody will insult it.

20 years from now we’ll look back at what we all wear today and be laughing at it.

J. Says:

They do realize that a fat person looks fat no matter what they wear, right? It’s not like wearing shapeless, black sacks will disguise them as a thin person. If you’re a size 18, you’ll look fat in something fabulous, but you’ll look fat in a sack, too. So why be fat and boring when you can be fat and vibrant and beautiful?

Oh, fat and beautiful in the same sentence? Absurd! Why would any fat person want to dress well and express themselves– don’t they know everyone will see that they’re fat!?

Fuck this shit.

Jamie Says:

Chloe- Coming to defend yourself against some hate monger is childish, but putting together this drivel isn’t? The author opened herself up to all of the comments when she not only stole the photos, but sent a link to her website to all the major fatshion bloggers.

callalilyjones Says:

i am a personal stylist who has extensive training in dressing plus sized women. i read the cached version of this article, and i have to say that most of your “advice” to these women is WRONG. if you are going to be harshly critical of these woman (all of whom do a great job dressing their bodies and enjoy bright colors and patterns), at least have the knowledge to be able to give them advice that doesn’t involve them wearing potato sacks.

plus, you are really mean. this is a really mean-spirited article. i would never tell anyone their outfits were ugly, even if i didn’t like it. are you trying to make yourself feel better by attacking others?

Juliet Says:

I’m with callalilyjones - the “articles” you post, suggesting fashion choices plus women should wear are pretty heinous. I may not share the same fashion aesthetic as the pics you posted without permission, but at least those have style.

Knee length hoodies? Acid wash stretch capri jeans? Really? If you’re going to claim to give fashion advice, have some decent advice to give.

SickoftheFatHate Says:

You are a vile and repugnant person. Did you get bored and type this up to just give the appearance of be a writer on the cutting edge of the news stories.

Since you don’t have proper respect to ask people for permission to use their pictures, and then have the audacity to use their pictures in an attempt to humiliate them…Let us then have a look at the author of this useless article.

I am posting a link to a pic of you with all of your “Fashion Sense”.

http://www.winningwriters.com/graphics/wergle/2009/l_rigdon.jpg

http://www.lrigdon.com/mediac/450_0/media/10002.jpg

http://www.lrigdon.com/6452.html

Behold the drab attire, and the Laura Ingells hairstyle in this Walmart-esque fashion photo. Yeah, you are really one to advise people on fashion…NOT!!!

Julia Says:

So, this article mentioned the importance of buying from companies who show their clothes on plus size models. This is advice I whole heartedly agree with.

However, many of the example photos showed…straight size models.

L. Rigdon Says:

Due to the personal attacks I’m receiving on other sites not remotely connected to this site, please review the following:

http://eccentriceclectic.wordpress.com/2010/02/24/bbsize-controversy/

-L. Rigdon

m13 Says:

heres a picture of beth ditto with karl lagerfeld.
http://pinstripebindi.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/karl-lagerfeld-and-beth-ditto.jpg
I would like to know what right the author of the peice of crap article has to critique her.
I dont want to wear beige mumus.

callalilyjones Says:

L. Rigdon,

I’ll address this to you directly here. I read your blog post, and I respect the fact that you are simply “doing your job.” I am most bothered by the fact that “doing your job” entailed the insulting and mocking of these woman. I appreciate that your “article” got your “client” what they wanted, which is a viral marketing campaign (e.g. attention paid to their site), but did you really have to bring other people down to do so?

I mean, i suppose that if BBsize wanted angry fatties (used in the most respectful reclaiming of that word) at their virtual “doorstep” with pitchforks, then your article has achieved success. I’m not entirely sure if there is any real benefit to BBsize, however, once the comment-storm dies down and all of these lovely fatties move on with their lives and never return.

StopTheH8 Says:

callalilyjones:

According to L. Rigdon’s own comment on her own blog answering one woman’s question of why her photos were used without permission: “I did not mean to hurt your feelings. I was hired to find pictures that met a certain criteria, and that is what I did.”

That is what bothers me - *a certain criteria*. What were those criteria? It sounds very personally subjective to me, and though she’s trying very hard to backpedal with her “I was just doing my job” defense the fact remains that SHE decided what constituted good vs. bad. I find her to be morally bankrupt for her comments and her attitude in stating them.

I can think of lots of other people who did awful things and used the “I was just doing my job” defense, and that excuse didn’t hold water then, either. I could cite examples that immediately come to mind but I don’t want to draw unfair parallels.

callalilyjones Says:

stoptheh8:

i hear what you are saying here. what i am most bothered by (since we are airing what bothers us about what l. rigdon did), is that she took images that met her criteria (obviously her criteria was “find photographs of people dressed “unflatteringly”" judging by the tone of the article) and then made no effort to alter the photographs in any way to attempt to conceal the identity of the individuals she is criticizing.

her comments here (http://eccentriceclectic.wordpress.com/2010/02/24/bbsize-controversy/) seem to imply that she did nothing wrong because these images are all in public domain sites, which i understand from a legal perspective, however i am bothered by her MORALS which allowed her a) to mock people in this way and b) to not even try to attempt to protect these people’s identity by cropping the photographs. not classy, l. rigdon, not classy.

buttercup_rocks Says:

Hey, L. Rigdon, for many years I used to dress remarkably like the women in your ‘Style Away Your Problems’ section. At that time in my life those were pretty much the only fashion options open to me as a plus sized woman in the UK. Dark colours; skirts down to the floor; hideous ankle-flapping palazzo pants beneath long, long tunics with slits up the side. I kidded myself I looked chic in an 80s-retro, unstructured Commes des Garcons kind of way. Maybe I did, but here’s the thing: there are numerous facets to my sartorial persona and that is only one of them. I am a creative person; I trained as a designer, have an excellent eye for colour and work in the creative arts – and I like to express those things through my clothes. I can assure you that nobody I work with or care about regards me “as the fat chick in the weird clothes”. Indeed I receive regular compliments, quite often from people who are half my age. Perhaps, since you’ve chosen to use not one but two of my images to illustrate your piece, you just lack imagination. Indeed, from the outfits you’re suggesting would flatter me better than those in my rather stylish wardrobe, it would certainly look that way.

Over time, things began to change in my country. Certain styles came into mainstream fashion that plus-size manufacturers realised some fat women might like to wear. Trapeze, Empire-Line and kimono-influenced shapes; bold prints; coloured tights, (ten years after skinny women got them), leggings – cropped, patterned, ruched, buttoned, and so on. My favourite shop for most of my adult life started to make clothes in my size and I suddenly remembered who I used to be before I was forced into clothes that would make a Mennonite look racy. I used to like vintage, 50s inspired frocks and little beaded cardigans. In fact I used to favour dresses period – and I hadn’t been able to find one that wasn’t a sleeveless, cheap, rayon sheath with a tie-back for twelve fucking years in the UK.

Here’s another thing; I am apple-shaped. Like many apple-shaped women I have a cracking bust, fine shoulders, (from years of swimming), and a great pair of pins, all of which I like. Do I like my mid-section? (My ‘problem area” as you would have it). Not especially but there are very few ways to show off the former without the latter coming into play and I’m tired of hiding my light under a bushel, particularly now that I have a choice in the matter. I notice that many of the women you have chosen to demonstrate “ugly clothing choices” are apples. Not only are we the perennial Cinderellas of the plus-size fashion world, we are rarely seen anywhere outside of fatshion blogs – by which I mean forward thinking fatshion blogs – so we probably look rather strange to you. Sorry about that but covering myself in some naff polyester schmatta with an asymmetrical hem over baggy cigarette pants is not going to make me look slim or gorgeous. It’s going to make me look fatter than I actually am, in places I’m not even fat and will highlight precisely none of my assets; instead it will make me look frumpy, ashamed, apologetic and asexual and frankly I’m done with that shit.

Sarah Says:

If this is a fashion site, why is it SO RIDICULOUSLY UGLY? 1998 called, it wants its Geocities site back.

Also, your lack of fashion knowledge is ridiculous. CLOTHES THAT FIT > OVERSIZED. Always.

Sarah Says:

Are you kidding me?

Not only does this article read like it was written by a 12-year-old, are you seriously proposing that your outdated, 80s pictures are preferred to some of the classy little outfits shown in the pictures you stole from other websites?

Is the main point of this post “GOD FORBID YOU LOOK LIKE YOU ARE UNDER THIRTY, here’s how to look more matronly.”

Some of the articles shown on pictures you stole from blogs are ugly because they would be ugly on ANYONE. But some of them are undeniably cute, classy, and not at all “non-slimming” (which is a pathetic attempt at a word, find something better.”

Purple double-breasted coat girl, red swingy long coat girl, and khaki trench coat girl with skirt are all super cute, super classy, and super “flattering” if that is the standard by which you’re going about creating your “plus size fashion website” (which is, btw, bullshit).

This isn’t even standard FASHION advice. Where are you getting this drivel? Watch an episode - heck, ten minutes - of What Not to Wear and you would have more expertise.

lip magazine: for girls who think feel create speak out live » Feminist, Fat and Fabulous blog: Don’t Tell Me What I Can Wear Says:

[…] Fatty internet users mobilise! And they did. The amount of people who have jumped up and joined this cause is astounding and kind of heart warming. Within a day, the website took the photos and the article down. (However, your tireless blogger has found a google cache version). […]

Molly Says:

Wow. Your excuse that you were just doing your job makes you even more morally repugnant.

Seriously??? Says:

L. Rigdon should be fired. She is a horrible excuse for a writer and certainly NOT representative of the plus-size fashion scene.

Seriously??? Says:

And now that I have looked at the picture of L. Rigdon that was linked here, I just have to laugh. She is the epitome of a self-hating fattie. Wake up, L. Rigdon! You’re as fat and poorly dressed as any of us, but at least we own our looks!

L. Rigdon L. Rigdon L. Rigdon L. Rigdon L. Rigdon L. Rigdon L. Rigdon L. Rigdon L. Rigdon L. Rigdon L. Rigdon L. Rigdon L. Rigdon L. Rigdon L. Rigdon

Have fun with your Google reputation after this piece of bullshit!

jojo Says:

As my comment below will be deleted from the authors own site where she pathetically defends herself.

Wow the “just following orders” defence - that’s always a winner. You might not appreciate comments - I’m sure the people whose photos you used did not appreciate being pointed out as objects of derision. You would think as a fellow fatty you would have some empathy but hey, if you need to prositute yourself for the almighty dollar…..

jojo Says:

And as the author thinks internet photos are fair game - do I spy some fat rolls?

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=18822692&albumID=702907&imageID=10620237

Minona Says:

Are you joking? No way that I am going to wear frumpy, anti-sexy, body-hating clothes - no matter my size! (I wear everything from 8-20, since women´s sizing is crazy).
All of you women-bashers can put on some frump-clothes and place yourselves in the shame-corner!

Veronica Says:

I feel like I’m beating a dead horse here, but I read your article and I really want to comment. The word “minimizing” and other words more or less to that effect (eg. “flatten”), were used over and over. Why is it so important to you that fat women be made to be as invisible as possible? Your color choices also tie into this; I studied the pictures of the garments in different colors, and what your suggested colors do is make you fade into the background more than the other colors. I am fat, but that does not mean that I do not deserve to be as visible as everyone else, and reading you saying that it does (you may not have come out and said it, but the message is clear) both pissed me off and hurt my feelings.

Haha Says:

L. Rigdon is not a Holocaust guard. She is a writer. Get over it.

CharlotteTheOriginal Says:

The author of this removed article should look for some other job. She stated as defence that she only did her job, well, it is a bad one she did! She do not know anything about fashion, plus size or not, she her self looks like something from the early 90’s. Common, if to write about fashion, at least look like you know what the heck you are talking about. She also writes she only did what she was told…..really, and so you are a writer without any selfpride, who can not stand by your own words? Good luck in the future getting a job as a writer again!

Rae Kay Says:

Anyone else notice that the “bad” creative dressers include many women of color, while the “good” catalog models are primarily white?

Racism FAIL, to go with all the other FAILS involved.

Shame on you, L. Rigdon!

Nicole Says:

There is always one. No, no one else noticed. Is it because you are the only racist in the house?

You are a fucking idiot.

Rae Kay Says:

Ah, the old “observing a problem = causing the problem” gambit. Stay classy, sweetcakes.

Rae Kay Says:

Oh, and to clarify for the hard-of-thinking:

I was saying the difference in picture choices was a BAD thing. Which the author did for BAD (though quite possibly subconscious) reasons.

As in: racism and sizism collided to form one big intersectional fail-travaganza ;)

Nicole Says:

Yeah Einstein you spotted a big problem. Thank you for saving all of us.

And I am saying you are still a fucking idiot. Sweetcakes!

Camla Says:

You really blew it on this one; nothing like alienating your readers! I find this so offensive, I will not be back to this site. Ever.

Misty Says:

Ladies… give the author a break! I do think he/she said the article was being revisited. Give them a chance to redeem themselves. Everyone sticks there foot in their mouth sometimes… though most on not so big of a scale. LOL

H. Powers Says:

I appreciate the attempt to revisit the article, though it is still apparently confused on the concept of fat fashion politics.

What I don’t appreciate is the non-apology. What you’ve essentially said is “I’m sorry you felt bad.” Where is the personal apology for using my photo without my permission? I do not care what you think of my fashion choices. I care that you used my intellectual property and never directly responded to me when I called you on it.

eli Says:

This article is a festival of FAIL. Please stop. Immediately.

nunya Says:

This is by far the worst article I have ever read. When I first became really fat, I hated myself and hid in dark, baggy clothing that covered everything. I was so unhappy. I am a bright, happy person, who loves bright, pretty colors, and bold patterns. I figured I could never wear those again. Then I realized that wearing black wasn’t going to fool anyone into thinking I’m skinny! I might as well wear what I love and feel happy!
Your article is so wrong. If dark clothes don’t fit properly, they can be just as unflattering and make you look fatter than lighter colors. You picked the most shapeless, ugly, boring garments! I wouldn’t be caught dead in any of those. The models in the clothing you suggested look ridiculous, and the ones in the “bad” fashion choices actually look AWESOME.
I wear stylish clothes that are cut to fit and flatter my body, and I look DAMN good doing it. I refuse to hide in baggy clothing that only makes me look bigger. I have curves that a lot of women would LOVE to have and I am proud to show them off. It took me a long time to get to this point, and no idiot like you is going to tell me I can’t be who I am!
I’m a size 22 right now, but I have been as high as a 28/30. It’s amazing, but I have ALWAYS received compliments on my clothes, even from very slender women. I don’t own many plain, solid color, dark clothing. It’s about fit and style, and how you carry yourself.
Life is too short to be stuck in boring drab colors.
You can’t possibly be a fat person, or you would never have written such a ridiculous article.

Meems Says:

This isn’t an apology; it’s a justification for some utterly stupid actions. Fat women are fat, not stupid, and we have every right to dress how WE like without being told we’re making ourselves look stupid or bad or ugly. The clothing you feature is unbelievably ugly for the most part and overall boring.

Get over yourselves.

Lampdevil Says:

Yeah, that was an un-apology, that was. Alas, since I arrived here much too late to see the original article, I cannot comment on if this revision is an improvement or not.

I actually LIKE most of the initial pictures on the thread! That’s how I dress! I’m a young woman and I want to LOOK like a young woman. Meanwhile, all the “oh yes please do this” pictures that you’ve picked out look horribly dowdy. Frumpy. Old. C’mon…

This blog is just a money-making venture, isn’t it? You’re trying to ride the wave of Fatshion, but all you’ve got is an uninflated pair of water wings. Yeah, no, this site ain’t for me. Or anyone else, for that matter.

deeleigh Says:

I read this article after it was revised, and its still not good advice. The outfits you think look bad are mixed, in my conservative, 40 year old opinion. Some look good; some don’t. But, the ones you say look good are uniformly frumpy-looking. They all look too old for me. I wouldn’t wear them. And, again, I’m 40.

The best looking outfits here are some of the ones you’re criticizing. You’re so obsessed with trying to create the illusion that are bodies are all shaped the same way that you have no clue what looks good and what doesn’t. For example, you show pear shaped women wearing shapeless tunics that hide their waists. That doesn’t even jive with your written advice. What, are you afraid that someone may notice we have hips? Oh, horrors!

I wear an 18W and I go out every day dressed better than anyone shown on this page. Maybe I should start a fashion blog.

TuffyRox Says:

Totally disagree with your article, but thanks for the links to awesome stores I’d never heard of like Size Queen and Figuresque.

kids bean bags Says:

Super-Duper site! I am loving it!! Will come back again - taking you feeds also, Thanks.

Albert Ropers Says:

Thanks for the “work” you put into your blog

Magic Tricks Revealed Says:

I just stumbled across your site and viewing it on my mobile phone. Thanks for the post. (Apple Mobile Device)

age spots Says:

Fascinating…definitely food for thought. I hope you do not mind if I pass this over to a couple of other people I know.

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